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Maximillion



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Holbrook/Mono Pond in Hebron 3/23/11 Reply with quote

Went out today got there around 1, it was really cold and snowing we got nothing and moved to Mono Pond in Hebron and there seemed to be a huuge fish kill, we saw alot of dead fisha dn someone drove by and screamed theyre all dead so maybe it was a winter fish kill there, If anyone knows please let me know why there was so many dead fish
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Max,

Mono Pond is a small very - very - very shallow pond -> So I'm not surprised about the winter fish kill there what with the heavy ice cap we've had this year.

I'd be pretty sure to say that all available O2 was used up by decaying vegetation and fish Exclamation

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PECo



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the beginning of March, a DEP wildlife biologist told me that a Winter fish kill had been reported in Mono Pond.
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Maximillion



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew it it doesnt help that its shallow but it gets choked with weeds when its warmer out well thanks guys thats what I was assuming, that sucks it wasnt bad of a pond until now
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Vudak



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering if the Farmington Reservoir had the same winterkill problem.... Not that there's a ton of fish (some, yes), but all along the bank there are dead crayfish everywhere (is that normal)?

Not that it really matters, I suppose. That place has been pounded mercilessly by poachers since the economy tanked and is nowhere near big enough to sustain it. It's probably a lost cause by now.
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PECo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen any crayfish on the shore this year. I've seen a lot of deer pellets and goose poop, but not a lot of crayfish. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were there last weekend, walking along the "maintained" area and saw dead crayfish every few feet along the entire bank (in the water, maybe 6"). I'm just curious if this is their natural cycle or if that is something wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plant and trees don't use O2 the Use CO2 and release O2.....the decaying vegetation was using less CO2 and as a result they produce less O2.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dave_376!

Scientific Fact: -> Dead and decaying freshwater vegetation does not take in ANY CO2 -> Its DEAD -> So no photosynthysis can occur at all and no O2 can be produced Exclamation

It does use O2 though in the process of decay.
So a body of water that has a lot of dead and decaying vegetation can expend the O2 available and fish will suffocate from lack of dissolved O2.

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Ctbassnut



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a big big fish kill at north farms res also...Ton's of dead fish along the banks everywhere on the lake.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sea Dog
Do you feel that it is necessary to repeat what i just said back to me? Why are you so Hostile towards everyone? Do you enjoy conflict? Or is it your intent to see how many members you can drive off this web site?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dave_376!

I Did Not repeat what you said at all! -> You said dead decaying vegetation uses less CO2 and thus producing less O2.

That is not the case at all.
I said, that if the vegetation is dead, no photosynthysis can occur, so no O2 can be produced what so ever.
And as vegetation decays it uses up available O2 in the decaying process and fish suffocate due to lack of dissolved O2.

That is what happens in shallow waters with heavy weed infestation.
Thus winter fish kills (some drastic) can and do occur especially if a thick ice cap seals off the waters.

Why you got your feathers ruffled over my posting of the exact scientific explanation (totally different from your post) of the biological mechanics that contribute significantly to the cause of winter fish kills is baffling ?

That's all -> No conflict!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEP ADVISORY CONCERNING WINTER FISH KILLS
Shallow lakes and ponds most susceptible to fish kills caused by extensive snow and ice cover
Winter is finally beginning to lose its grip on Connecticut. This winter was severe, and the extensive snow and ice cover experienced throughout the state has greatly increased the potential for fish kills in shallow ponds and lakes. The Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) has already received several reports of fish kills and as the ice cover on lakes and ponds recedes this year, DEP expects to receive more reports.
Winterkill is a natural event that varies from year to year depending on conditions. “Winterkills occur most frequently in very shallow, nutrient-enriched ponds that are subject to abundant growth of aquatic weeds,” said Peter Aarrestad, Director of DEP’s Inland Fisheries Division. “Conditions conducive to winterkill arise when heavy snow cover over ice inhibits sunlight penetration, thereby preventing aquatic plants from producing oxygen via photosynthesis. This process is the sole means of oxygen creation under ice-covered ponds. The greater the load of dead and decaying plant material, the more rapid the loss of oxygen and the more quickly fish can be stressed or killed by low dissolved oxygen levels. The fish typically die during the winter and are only observed following ice-out.”
Winter kills that occur in larger lakes are rarely serious in the long run because lakes support thousands of fish per acre. Usually enough fish survive, either in the lake or in connecting waters, to repopulate the lake. More severe winterkills that result in the elimination of all or nearly all of the pond’s fish community are more likely to occur in very small, privately owned ponds. Pond owners who may experience winterkill are advised that in the future, shoveling off some of the snow cover to allow light penetration may stave off potential winterkill conditions.
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2011 Winterkill----page 2
Anyone observing abnormally high fish mortalities during or after ice out this spring can notify the DEP Inland Fisheries Division at the Headquarters in Hartford (860-424-3474), the Eastern District Office in Marlborough (860-295-9523) or the Western District office in Harwinton (860-485-0226).
The public is also advised that any fish kills observed in rivers, lakes, ponds, and streams any time of year can be reported to the Inland Fisheries Division at the numbers listed above. Biologists will discuss the caller’s observations and determine if a field investigation is warranted. While most fish kills are natural occurrences, some have been attributed to accidental or unauthorized human actions such as chemical releases, farm runoff, flow modifications or poorly designed or conducted management activities. Anyone reporting fish kills is asked to provide as much detail as possible concerning location, time and date, estimated size, numbers and types of fish involved, and other relevant site-specific information, and if possible, photographs or digital images.
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Sorry honey, looks like we will be late again due to motor problems.

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SeaDog1



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi BA!

Good Post!

It's where I took my info from -. Just posted the Reader's digest version Exclamation Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SD, just trying to help.

I also heard about the FK at mono, a friend texted me and said he saw huge 4lb+ bass dead every where and hundreds of dead gills and other bait:( I have a couple of places that I have been fishing since I was a kid that I am going to have to check out, they meet the criteria for a potential fk. I am crossing my fingers.
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Sorry honey, looks like we will be late again due to motor problems.

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