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billybass · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 315

I hear ya that why I did,
following the rules

flippy · Joined: 25 May 2008 Posts: 1150

Billybass, I didnt mean that directly at anybody, I was just agreeing with what SEADOG was saying.

billybass · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 315

I know...I understand Wink

Pauleye · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 129

First, March is a transistion from ice to open water with all the preparation that goes with it. The Farmington River gives up some nice trout on the fly during March.

As for Drunken Joe Hazelwood, your kidding right? It's known fact that the Capt. decided to sleep off his drunken state and put his inexperienced first/second/third mate in charge of navigating this massive ship through the Valdez narrows. In an attempt to avoid icebergs shedding from Columbia glacier, the first mate took the ship outside the shipping lane and turned back into the lane a little too late hitting Bligh Reef.

The National Transportation Safety Board investigated the accident and determined five probable causes of the grounding: (1) The third mate failed to properly maneuver the vessel, possibly due to fatigue and excessive workload; (2) the master failed to provide a proper navigation watch, possibly due to impairment from alcohol; (3) Exxon Shipping Company failed to supervise the master and provide a rested and sufficient crew for the Exxon Valdez; (4) the U.S. Coast Guard failed to provide an effective vessel traffic system; and (5) effective pilot and escort services were lacking.

Now, the ocean as well as the road has some less than stellar peformers. But the typical recreational boater does not need 10 years of training. The yahoos will be yahoos no matter how many classes they take. I know a few very good boat operaters who know and follow the rules and they used their own initiate and experience to become good captians.

billybass · Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 315

Wow
never heard of joe Hazelwood but i had to check the paper work because
the captian that taught the class,his name was joe ,I was thinking NO WAY.
but not the same guy ..that would have been hillarious Laughing

SeaDog1 · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 2629

Hello Pauleye!

In response to your post on Capt. Joe Hazelwood.

Go to (www.wikipedia.org) -> click on the English -> type Joe Hazelwood in the search block.

After you read the write-up in its ENTIRETY-> "YOU WILL POST YOUR APOLOGY" for the inappropiate, erroneous, and slanderous implications you made.

NOTE: The Mate, on the Exxon Valdez, "was experienced" and had "pilotage endorsement" for Valdez Straits on his license (10 round trips requiered for endorsement).
Capt. Hazelwood left the bridge after checking that the ship was on course and in the hands of a fully qualified Mate, whose bridge watch it was.
The Mate made a serious navigational error well after Capt. Hazelwood had retired.
The Mate failed to call the Captain to the bridge once he realized his error.
Capt. Hazelwood did take full responsibility for the incident and never pointed blame at the Mate Exclamation

As for your remarks concerning that recreational boaters don't need 4 years of formal training or 10 years to attain FULL MASTER RANK as I -> Your right!
BUT! I never said that they did.

What I said is that recreational boaters should take a USCG Aux. Boaters Course or go to an approved USCG Boating School -> Which is formated and geared for recreational boaters.

The state run 1 day course is a TOTAL JOKE Exclamation

It is a total impossibility to learn all that a recreational boater needs to know to be a responsible boater in 1 day. THAT IS A HARD COLD FACT Exclamation

and has been proven to be TRUE.

Oh! Just so you understand -> It makes NO DIFFERENCE if your Captain of a 10 ft. boat or a 973 ft. container ship (as I have) BOTH MUST "Repeat MUST!' OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD and THAT APPLIES TO INLAND WATER AS WELL AS OCEAN with SPECIAL RULES FOR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER, RED RIVER, AND GREAT LAKES Exclamation

As the Captain of a 10 ft. boat or 973 ft. ship you will be held solely responsible for any incident that occurs (lake, pond, river, or ocean) and have to face a USCG inquiery and a Judge in Admiralty Law.

Aha! Never told you that in a 1 day course -> did they!

I, to this very day, am still learning and improving on my Seamanship skills.

Best regards,
SeaDog1

P.S. After posting your apology -> Let us put this subject to rest once and for all and get back to the subject of fishing.

Born to Hunt, and Fish · Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Posts: 32

the only problem with Wikipedia is any one can edit it, which can cause lies, and inaccurate information in all subjects. Wikipedia isn't a good site to get true and reliable information.

SeaDog1 · Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 2629

Hi BHF!

Well now Exclamation

-> I check and found that they got the "Actual Trial Tanscripts" and wrote the encyclopidia summary directly from it with no editing.

Guess you need to make an apology also Exclamation

I'm tired of all this Exclamation

Capt. Hazelwood is an "Honorable Man Exclamation

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He took ALL the Blame for the qualified Mate's error as he should have (As Master) and able to maintain his cool and dignity Exclamation

He's been CRUCIFIED hundreds of times by the media, hollywood, talkshow individuals, and gerneral public.

Facts are Facts and the Truth came out at the trial.

FYI: Do you think his Alma Marta would have hired him (Soon after the trial) to teach future mariners if they belived he was not an Honorable or Truthful Ship Master.

NO Exclamation

I don't think so!

Again -> I'm really tired of hearing from people who don't do their Homework and don't get the True Facts.
Only what they want to hear, read, and continue to perpetrate false inuendos Exclamation

Belive Me! -> I'm not the only Maritime Professional that will defend Capt. Joe Hazelwood to the death Exclamation

SO -> Enough is Enough Exclamation

Post your APOLOGIES and lets be done with this and give Capt. Hazelwood some PEACE Exclamation

Best regards,
SeaDog1

fishinschmoe · Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 300

Once again... AMEN, SEA DOG.

I am by no means a "saint", but I run 3 boats, one of which is in salt water. I was actually "grand fathered" into the new rules, and got my safety card in the mail with my registration renewal way back when they first started safety courses. I took the course anyway, and learned how to tie a few knots...none of which I use on the water.

Again, Im no master boater, but I had some good schooling from a some well seasoned boat captains, and rangers long before I bought my first boat.

It amazes me to see some of those clowns out there, merely dodging those "green things", and doing 40 in no wake zones; all the while, trying to see "around" the tilted bottle or cans.

I wont even get into those little water flea nightmare machines and the testosterone overloaded folk who own and drive those...

As far as getting checked for your safety card,... fresh water, not so much, but in the salt, you get checked quite a bit. . they wait at the launches; and sometime light up their cherries and berries in the no-wake zones for surprise visits.
What is convenient, but perhaps not the best idea, if you get checked, and pass the full safety check, the CG gives you a sticker, you can put on your starboard window, and you won't get checked again that year.