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WishinIWasFishin
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 219
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: Senkos and Hooks |
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I took the advice from this site and picked up a couple of senkos and some nice hooks. And I love em , they nail fish. But after one cast, the hook pierces right through the senko and the bait is no longer "weedless" its really frustrating. Is there any special way to rig so they stay weedless? _________________ 6.5' Penn Long Beach with a Penn 330Gti for deep sea
7' Bionic Blade with Daiwa Megaforce
6.5' Ugly Stick with spinning Quantum
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slimecoat
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1576 Location: Newington, CT.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Are you wacky rigging them or Texas rigging them?
I am guessing you are Texas rigging them, as this is really the only way to rig them weedless. I think the action of the bait is better if you can get away with wacky rigging them.
If you want to rig them wacky and weedless, use a hook with a wire weedguard and go to town.
Hope this helps. _________________ Life's Short - Fish Hard - Take a Kid Fishing |
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WishinIWasFishin
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 219
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Thanks,
And yes I was riggin them weightless Texas style... I was afraid to go wacky that it would pull right through slicing the senko. _________________ 6.5' Penn Long Beach with a Penn 330Gti for deep sea
7' Bionic Blade with Daiwa Megaforce
6.5' Ugly Stick with spinning Quantum
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shortypowers
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 83
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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WishinIWasFishin wrote: | Thanks,
And yes I was riggin them weightless Texas style... I was afraid to go wacky that it would pull right through slicing the senko. |
When using them wacky rigged I've heard of people using rubber o-rings and putting the hook under those to increase the life of the senkos. There are also similar solutions like this:
Stick savers
(Note: no experience with that vendor, just saw a reference to them somewhere) |
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slimecoat
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1576 Location: Newington, CT.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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If you rig them sliding an o ring over the senko, and then put your hook through the o ring, you won't tear them as quickly wacky style. _________________ Life's Short - Fish Hard - Take a Kid Fishing |
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perfect hook set
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 1069 Location: Danbury
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Are you using the Gary Yamamoto senkos?
Which are very soft and not too durable
If not what brand are you using
Wacky style works great especially for small mouth bass but, for me at least, hooking them up wacky style tends to get hung up more. _________________
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WishinIWasFishin
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm using the Gary senkos which I noticed...aren't that durable, but they catch fish _________________ 6.5' Penn Long Beach with a Penn 330Gti for deep sea
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perfect hook set
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 1069 Location: Danbury
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Buy some Kinami senkos which are very similar but, in my opinion for durable...
Their are many brands of senkos ot there
Northland slurpies work/cast well
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So do some bass pro shop stick os _________________
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CTBASSIN
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 175 Location: Southbury, CT
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WishinIWasFishin
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Haha I've wondered the same thing _________________ 6.5' Penn Long Beach with a Penn 330Gti for deep sea
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slimecoat
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1576 Location: Newington, CT.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I don't use to many Gary Yamamoto senkos anymore, only certain colors I can't get elsewhere, for the same reason, they tear too easily. I found a brand called Cinko's made by the Jim Dandy Co., I got them from California Tackle. They are a harder more durable plastic and don't tear as easy in warm water, but I still like the softer senko's in cooler water, they have better action. Fish stix are very good as well, and alot cheaper than senko's too. _________________ Life's Short - Fish Hard - Take a Kid Fishing |
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Just4fun
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 1389 Location: Saybrook
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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If you wacky rig them with an O-ring, I've found that you can go to much smaller hooks and lighter tackle. Sometimes I just take the weight off my dropshot rig and use the little dropshot hook to wacky rig them. It is definitely not weedless,..but it is surprising how well that little hook will come through a lot of cover if you are patient and just kind of ease it along! Also, you almost never miss on the hookset because that skinny little hook penetrates so easily!
Also,..I have no problem getting an O-ring onto a senko without any tools. All you have to do is start it on the skinny end of the worm and it goes right on! You can pull it up onto the fat portion of the worm because as you pull (gently )on the worm it stretches and gets skinnier while it's stretched! (It's even easier if you put some scent on the worm first which I always do anyways! )
ps: I'm 99.99% sure that Kinami's are just senko's which are marketed under a different label by Gary's son,....
I suspect they did it because Walmart wanted some sort of exclusivity contract in order to carry them and Yamamoto didn't want to pull them (senkos) from the shelves of all the little stores that carry them! _________________ "If people concentrated more on the really important things in life there'd be a shortage of fishing poles."
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Pappy
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 125 Location: Derby, CT
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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A local guy makes senko knock offs at a great price which are very durable. I've been using them for 3 years now and love them.
Here's his web site.
http://www.jigheadslures.com/
He's ready to come out with a 7" one as well but the web site hasn't been updated.
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Bass Addict
Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 1214 Location: Wethersfield, CT 06109
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I like the producto lure hot rod worms. They are just like senko's but you can get 20 for 5.75 _________________ Sorry honey, looks like we will be late again due to motor problems.
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stumpy
Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 395 Location: northford
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mark is right, Kinami is Yamamoto enterprises. and i agree Jighead baitts are just a good in my opnion. i dont throw a senko often at all. just in the spring. you can get 2 times the amount of baits if you go with pappy's recomendations. |
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