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limeymotors
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While i'm shorta new to fishing, I'm not new to paddling. I wouldn't take a yak on a river until im comfertable with how it handels , turns, edges, tracks, and so on. be sure you know how to and acutaly do a self rescue or at least a assisted rescue. be sure you can upright your yak and get back in/on it, then get the water out. praticing some braces (high or low) will help keep you dry. I'm no expert but this is what I do and I make my kids learn it befor they get in any current. calm lakes and swimming pools are a great place to start. Just my humble opion-Duncan
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angry john
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While normally i would totally agree with the above stated, a nu-canoe is not exactly a yak. Your not held inside, so rolling is the same as a canoe but better because the boat is double hull and floats unlike a regular canoe. If you were to wait until it was warm enough to do the above exercises it would be months. Go with some calm water and someone else and the plans mentioned and you should be good to go. The best situation would involve a boat that could perform a rescue, and a rapid return to shore=warmth and dry clothes. There is a line between being ridiculous and careless, and properly managing risk. Getting wet is a very bad idea, right now. I believe you will be ok, unless you try standing up. That would be a cross the line stupid maneuver.
here is a link if anyone has not seen the vessel in question.
http://www.nucanoe.com/models/nucanoe/ |
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limeymotors
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Thanks for the link AngryJohn. that boat is defently closer to a canoe than a yak. looks pretty stable also. I look forward to seeing then on the water. -Duncan
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sonamcobain
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: sea eagle kayak |
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| Hi guys, some words of advice needed since i live in NY city and dont have the luxury space for a real kayak, what are my chances of using a inflatable kayak like sea eagle n how would it fare at those places you Guys mentioned. Should i get one and is it worth the trouble of trying fishing in one |
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mep21
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Location: West Hartford, CT
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The only person I know who has used an inflatable yak is DirtyDawg10. Hopefully he can comment more on this. He recently upgraded to a normal kayak. I remember it being a challenge for him to paddle the thing in any kind of current and that it wasn't the most comfortable boat to sit in for long periods of time, but if that is your only option you might be ok on small ponds and lakes. I can't remember what model he had either.... |
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sonamcobain
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| mep21 wrote: | | The only person I know who has used an inflatable yak is DirtyDawg10. Hopefully he can comment more on this. He recently upgraded to a normal kayak. I remember it being a challenge for him to paddle the thing in any kind of current and that it wasn't the most comfortable boat to sit in for long periods of time, but if that is your only option you might be ok on small ponds and lakes. I can't remember what model he had either.... |
Thanks, lets hear what others have to say, i wanted to fish on the Sound, or here in Nyc city, jamaica bay,
And one more thing God Damn the Weather, |
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Michael
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| My kayak is a Victory Blast and has a bottom something like a canoe instead of more of a flat bottom. |
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fishfinder
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have dirtydawgs inflatable now. I used it on the housy in Shelton last year and it was pretty tough to deal the current and fish there. At dead low it would be fine but once the current starts moving its a little tough. I wouldnt take it on the housy this time of year. I didnt find it that uncomfortable and I was in there for a few hours.
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PECo
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: sea eagle kayak |
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| sonamcobain wrote: | | Hi guys, some words of advice needed since i live in NY city and dont have the luxury space for a real kayak, what are my chances of using a inflatable kayak like sea eagle n how would it fare at those places you Guys mentioned. Should i get one and is it worth the trouble of trying fishing in one |
I've never paddled a Sea Eagle, but I've owned and paddled two inflatables; a Coleman Exponent Fastback and a Hobie Mirage i9s. Both are terrific boats. I gave the Coleman to DirtyDawg10 (aka Derek) after I got my first rigid plastic polyethylene kayak, but still have the Hobie. Derek passed the Coleman on to Fishfinder (aka Wade).  Both are slower than a comparable rigid plastic boat. They're shorter and made of materials that create more drag than rigid plastic, and the shapes of their hulls create more drag, too. However, they both perform adequately and are fine for fishing. The Coleman is a sit inside kayak with a nylon fabric shell that could be easily hooked by carelessly handled lures, but is nice and warm in colder weather, because it's basically an inflated cocoon. The Hobie is more of a sit on top made of PVC-vinyl that's rigid and tough enough to resist being hooked, and has Hobie's Mirage Drive pedal propulsion system. The boats are on the ends of the price spectrum for an inflatable kayak. I think I paid less than $250 for the Coleman and almost $1,400 for the Hobie.
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DirtyDawg10
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| The Coleman wasn't a bad boat. It was much slower than a rigid kayak because once you sit in it the bottom bowed out and caused more drag in the water. It was also very susceptible to being blown around in the wind and did not track well at all. They will get you where you want to go though. The nylon shell was a plus because instead of sticking a hook into the boat it acted as protection from poking a hole in the vinyl. It was best used on smaller ponds and lakes and gentle rivers. Although I did take it out on the CT river and larger lakes as well. Just make sure your paddling muscles are in shape before you hit too big of a lake or river current. |
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sonamcobain
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| DirtyDawg10 wrote: | | The Coleman wasn't a bad boat. It was much slower than a rigid kayak because once you sit in it the bottom bowed out and caused more drag in the water. It was also very susceptible to being blown around in the wind and did not track well at all. They will get you where you want to go though. The nylon shell was a plus because instead of sticking a hook into the boat it acted as protection from poking a hole in the vinyl. It was best used on smaller ponds and lakes and gentle rivers. Although I did take it out on the CT river and larger lakes as well. Just make sure your paddling muscles are in shape before you hit too big of a lake or river current. |
I was thinking of getting the one where two people can sit, I had ordered subscribed their mail, they sent me a sample of the material they use for the kayak, it Seems really strong, Coz i tried to poke a nail through it, it just wouldn't go through, but far as stability that's what im concerned about,
Anways to Pecco : Its a pleasure reading your blogs, |
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PECo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| DirtyDawg10 wrote: | | The Coleman wasn't a bad boat. It was much slower than a rigid kayak because once you sit in it the bottom bowed out and caused more drag in the water. It was also very susceptible to being blown around in the wind and did not track well at all. They will get you where you want to go though. The nylon shell was a plus because instead of sticking a hook into the boat it acted as protection from poking a hole in the vinyl. It was best used on smaller ponds and lakes and gentle rivers. Although I did take it out on the CT river and larger lakes as well. Just make sure your paddling muscles are in shape before you hit too big of a lake or river current. |
Here's Derek fishing in the Coleman on the lower Farmington River 2-1/2 years ago:
The water level was low and we barely made it upriver to Bart's for lunch. I seriously didn't think that Derek would be able to paddle up a narrow, fast moving stretch of water that I had barely cleared in my eight foot rigid polyethylene Pelican Pursuit 80 DLX. I think it took him five minutes to travel 20 feet, paddling like his hair was on fire. 
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coastieyaker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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PECo,
Did you really have to post this pic (lol)?
Now I am pretty much fiending to get on the water.
Damn this weather to heck!!!! |
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DirtyDawg10
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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The Coleman is very stable. Never even came close to flipping that thing.
lol...Phil, I forgot about that. Somewhere there is a video of me paddling the Coleman (Manatee) over the beaver dam at Bantam river. |
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mep21
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe the better part of watching you go over the beaver dam was watching you plug up the current trying to get back upstream of it! |
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